Very little renders me speechless these days, especially being a critical researcher on all things relating to the de population control agenda which is firmly underway in plain sight of all those who care to educate themselves BUT this is just breathtakingly morally wrong. It’s just been on the BBC WALES NEWS that trials are going to start and every patient in Wales who, at the point of having a heart attack is going to become a guinea pig!
I have had a heart attack aged 46 and due to the skill of the cardiologist I survived.
What many people are unaware of is that men can have multiple cardiac arrests and recover equally well each time if they survive. WOMEN on the other hand can’t as a rule. Most women who suffer their second cardiac arrest will not survive a second one and will die.
I value my life, I value all life and at the very moment of life and death I strongly disagree that we should become a mere experiment! I will be doing everything in my power to get this decision reversed. This will include contacting the European Court Of Human Rights. I will also be contacting as many publications as I possibly can to get this highlighted. I cannot think of anybody, unless they are suicidal who would be happy and willing to participate in this TRIAL.
WOULD YOU BE HAPPY?
Here is an article relating to this in The Telegraph Newspaper.
Heart patients to be given placebo by paramedics in controversial trial
Patients whose hearts stop will be given a placebo instead of adrenalin by paramedics during attempts to save their lives in a study branded ‘ethically questionable’
Concerns have been raised that injecting cardiac arrest sufferers with adrenalin may cause severe brain damage and may not help overall survival at all.
Paramedics will give patients whose heart has stopped a dummy drug as part of an ‘ethically questionable’ study into whether adrenalin works in resuscitation or not, it has emerged.
Patients in cardiac arrest will receive either a shot of adrenalin, which is the current practice, or a salt water placebo but the patient, their relatives nor the paramedic administering it will know which.
The trial is seen to be controversial because patients will not be able to consent to taking part and could receive a totally useless placebo injection.
Current guidelines used by UK ambulance services recommend routinely giving adrenalin during the resuscitation of patients who have suffered cardiac arrest.
However, there are concerns that adrenalin may cause severe brain damage and may not help overall survival at all.
The new study, led by Warwick University, has been approved by an ethics committee and will begin in the autumn in Wales, London, the South coast, North East and West Midlands.
The first 8,000 patients who suffer a cardiac arrest will be included.
Dr Martin Underwood, whose team at Warwick University are running the study, said there will be local advertising campaigns before the study begins and people will be able to opt out in advance.
However he acknowledged that few were likely to do so and that the logistics of checking the identity and wishes of patients during frantic attempts to save their lives would be difficult.
He stressed that all other resuscitation including heart massage and defibrillation would be conducted on all patients as normal.
“We do not know that adrenalin does improve survival,” he said. “It is possible that it improves short-term survival but few patients leave hospital and it may be at the cost of neurological damage.
“It may in fact be something that is custom and practice that is actually harming people.
“There are sufficient grounds for concern that what we are doing at the moment is detrimental to people.”
He said the data would be reviewed at regular intervals throughout the trial and if it was clear that the dummy group or the adrenalin group was doing better than the study would be stopped.
Dr Underwood said: “We wouldn’t expect people would be put at unnecessary risk by this.”
There are thought to be around 50,000 people in Britain who suffer a cardiac arrest outside of hospitals, with just six per cent surviving and fewer still have no lasting brain damage.
Adrenalin has been used in resuscitation since the 1960s, before randomised controlled trials were conducted, Mr Underwood said.
The study, titled Paramedic 2: the adrenalin trial, is being supported by the Resuscitation Council and there have been calls for urgent studies into the use of adrenalin by the International Liaison Committee for Resuscitation (ILCOR).
It will seek to answer whether the use of adrenalin in such cases is clinically and cost effective and is being funded by the National Institute of Health Research (NIHR) at a cost of more than £2.75m.
Professor Gavin Perkins, who is one of those leading the trial, said: “The need to do this research is underpinned by a serious concern that although using adrenalin might help restart the heart in the short term, it causes severe brain damage leading to death a few hours or days later.
“We want the best possible outcomes for all people who have a cardiac arrest, both now and in the future.
“All patients will receive the treatment that is proven to improve survival from cardiac arrest, CPR and defibrillation.
“Adrenalin is an unproven treatment for cardiac arrest and may be harmful, which is why there is a need for this study.”
Initial resuscitation is effective in roughly just one in four heart attack patients but half of those who survive die in intensive care due to brain damage, which experts believe could be worsened by adrenalin.
Dr David Hunter, Professor of Medical Ethics at Flinders University in Adelaide, worked at the Centre for Professional Ethics at Keele University until 2011 and believes the study is “probably ethically justifiable – although ethically challenging because of the potential for harms to those who can’t consent to them”.
However Dr Hunter has raised concerns.
He said: “I’m not that keen on using passive means to inform relatives that their now deceased loved ones were part of a trial.
“While there are costs and indeed risks as they note in doing this directly the risks are incurred by doing it indirectly and I think it’s a matter of respect that you inform people.
“Also it isn’t clear if you can opt out – it says ‘patients can opt out’ in a similar fashion to opting out of resuscitation – I assume this only applies to present patients, so a small subset of the possible trial population.”
The passive measures to be used to inform relatives involve placing information about the trial in publicly accessible places, rather than directly informing relatives of patients involved in the study.
Other academics who support the trial have raised queries about consent and concerns that families of the dead will have to seek information about the study themselves.
Professor Paul Kinnersley is a GP and chairman of Cardiff University’s Institute of Primary Care and Public Health, who also represents Wales as part of the Institute for Medical Ethics. He supports the study despite outlining some ethical risks.
He said: “Obviously you can’t get consent for everyone who is going to to have a cardiac arrest but there’s an ethical duty to do the trial.”
Professor Kinnersley said families should be informed carefully, but not passively, to avoid adding to grief and believes NHS staff and the research academics should not be defensive when doing so.
He said: “There is a risk of compensation claims but ambulance trusts need to cope with that and explain the trial and be positive about why they’re doing it.”
A spokesman for the NIHR said the ethics application that has been approved could not be made public due to commercial interests, but Professor Perkins defended the ethics of the trial.
He said: “It is not possible to obtain consent in the immediate emergency situation. A member of the research team will seek consent to continue in the study as soon as possible once the initial emergency has passed.
“People who do not want to be part of the trial may opt out in advance by contacting their local ambulance service.
“Information about the study will be available from local ambulance services once the trial starts and families will be able to contact the ambulance service or the study team to discuss any concerns and seek further information and support.”
Dr Jasmeet Soar, Consultant in Intensive Care Medicine & Anaesthetics and former Chair of the Resuscitation Council (UK), defended including the cost-effectiveness of adrenalin as part of the study.
She said: “The findings of this study will provide greater understanding of the role of adrenalin for the treatment of cardiac arrest, and help inform future advanced life support guidelines.
“Cost-effectiveness of an intervention is an important part of any study, although adrenalin itself is relatively inexpensive, its use may decrease, or increase costs due to unnecessary complications that could be avoided by not using it.
“We simply do not know, and a study of this size will help answer what costs are associated with the use of adrenalin. Indeed economic analyses help direct funds to those interventions that offer the best chance of survival.”
The Welsh Ambulance Service NHS Trust, the London Ambulance Service, the West Midlands Ambulance Service NHS Trust, the North East Ambulance Service NHS Foundation Trust and the South Central Ambulance Service NHS Foundation Trust will be taking part in the trial.
Paramedics and clinicians will be blind to whether they are administering adrenalin or placebo.
Nigel Rees, Senior Research Lead at the Welsh Ambulance Service, said: “Given the uncertainty of the evidence and the life-threatening nature of the condition being treated, it is important that we obtain the best evidence we can to provide the best treatment possible.
“When doctors, nurses and paramedics do not know whether a treatment is effective it is common to undertake a research study.
“We will always endeavour to act in the best interests of our patients, their safety of which is paramount.”
The trial was due to begin in March this year, running until 2016, but a spokesperson for the University of Warwick said it is now due to begin in the autumn.
So, would you be happy to become an experiment at the point of maybe life or death? Anyone of us can have a heart attack at any age. I spent 5 days in the Acute Cardiac Unit, the first day I had my heart attack I was brought an evening meal, guess what it was? Cheese and onion pasty (pie) and fried chips, classic heart attack food. I would have preferred firstly to have had choice of meal and for that choice to have given me the option of having a salad or maybe some fish, lean meat and vegetables but no, there was no choice. Needless to say I didn’t eat what I was presented. Many patients would not be educated enough about health and nutrition to be aware of these things.
Another thing that I noted during those five frightening days was that 90% of patients on the ward having had a heart attack were between the ages of around 35 to 60, that really shocked me. I was the only female.
I hope this next point I’m going to make will help somebody at sometime, please pass this information on to all women
I didn’t get any of the “classic heart attack symptoms” like pain in your left arm and crushing central chest pain, like you see in the media. I and most women having a heart attack suffer a very hot burning sensation in the middle of your chest. It really does feel like your chest is on fire, it feels like burning flames. I did go grey in colour in my face and I felt very ill. I did feel nauseous and I did vomit. Because they weren’t classic symptoms I would expect I didn’t know it was a heart attack and I sat for two hours alone like this. I don’t ever like to trouble anyone or ask for help but I knew something was very wrong and it was getting worse. Eventually I phoned my best friend Roy who has had five heart attacks, he told me to go and look in the mirror and asked if I was a grey or strange colour. I was, he told me to dial 999 and if I had any aspirin to take these, luckily I did, these thin your blood. Not advised to do this if you take warfarin or any other blood thinning medication. The outcome for me was that all my arteries were very clear for a woman my age and that the cause of my heart attack remained unknown, there is such a thing as broken heart syndrome. At the time my heart was broken so who knows.
Thank The Lord for our brave soldiers who give their lives to protect us from THE ENEMY.
BUT there is a problem here in The West. Our enemy sits at the desks of our own leaders, with The Illuminati pulling their strings, not in some remote cave out in Afghanistan or Iraq (Formerly Babylon) They are not our enemy. The war on TERROR never existed until The West (Us) decided way before you or I were born that they wanted complete control of the planet and every single living thing on it. See, herein lies the problem, for them at least, the creator is far more powerful than any mere human, please think about life itself, the workings and intricacies of every living thing on planet earth ~ NOW THAT IS POWER and He’s coming back to save ALL those who believe in Him. Amen. Su x
One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a debate that goes on inside people. He said,”My son, the battle between two wolves is inside us all. One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other is good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith.
The grandson thought about this for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?”
The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”
Wisdom and truth are found everywhere that there is a genuinely good human, Su x
Imagine if……….all the soldiers turned and pointed their weapons at the real terrorists and said, no more war, no more hatred, we the people of planet earth choose the way of peace, love and tolerance now go away ( that was the polite version of the thoughts in my head) How amazing would that be because I truly do believe if people were left to it humanity would be a better place than it is today over time. What happened to us folks, they got to us and dumbed down the human spirit. Now let’s see is X Factor on TV?
Is this a distraction to avert our attention away from the bombshell about political Paedophiles? Well it won’t avert my attention that’s for sure. I’m just glad that this subject is being tackled, for every story there are innocent children being harmed. That is my motivation, to protect the innocent vulnerable children from MONSTERS!